In this episode of the Grazing Grass Podcast, Nathan Stucky of Stucky Family Ranch returns to discuss the latest innovations in sustainable agriculture. From integrating new cattle genetics to exploring advanced data collection with Rooted Ag, Nathan shares his journey over the past year. He delves into the challenges of adaptive grazing and the use of AI in modern farming, highlighting strategies to improve cattle health and enhance farm revenue. Nathan also shares his insights on managing social media challenges and future plans to combat common cattle issues through innovative solutions.
Today's topics include:
- New cattle genetics integration
- Data collection with Rooted Ag
- Challenges of adaptive grazing
- AI in modern farming
- Improving cattle health
- Enhancing farm revenue
- Social media management
Listen to this episode to gain valuable insights from Nathan Stucky's pioneering work in sustainable agriculture. Discover how innovative genetics, AI tools, and adaptive grazing strategies can revolutionize your farming practices and help you navigate the complexities of modern livestock production. Whether you're an experienced rancher or new to the field, this episode offers practical tips and inspiration to drive your agricultural success.
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Chapters
- (00:00) - 159. Pioneering New Paths in Agriculture with Nathan Stucky
- (00:45) - Introduction and Fast Five Questions
- (06:30) - Overview of Stucky Family Ranch
- (07:25) - Breeding and Livestock Management
- (08:56) - Challenges and Solutions in Grazing
- (18:32) - Marketing and Social Media Strategies
- (23:49) - Future Plans and Innovations
- (31:27) - Drone Spraying Insights
- (32:06) - Introduction to Rooted Ag
- (33:42) - Data Collection and Usage
- (35:31) - Time Management in Regenerative Agriculture
- (38:40) - AI and Technology in Farming
- (42:23) - Tracking and Reporting Tools
- (46:11) - Adaptive Grazing Strategies
- (47:33) - Subscription and User Experience
- (56:54) - Famous Four Questions
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00:00:00 --> 00:00:04 Speaker: On today's episode we have Nathan Stuckey of Stuckey Family Ranch.
00:00:04 --> 00:00:08 Nathan was on our podcast just about a year ago on episode 93.
00:00:09 --> 00:00:12 We revisited with Nate to talk about his plans.
00:00:13 --> 00:00:16 What's happened on his ranch since we talked to him.
00:00:16 --> 00:00:20 Plans for the upcoming year that includes some new genetics.
00:00:20 --> 00:00:22 As well as some new annuals they're doing.
00:00:23 --> 00:00:25 And then we talk about rooted ag.
00:00:26 --> 00:00:31 It's a data collection service that aims to provide you some insight into your
00:00:31 --> 00:00:34 operation and help you going forward.
00:00:34 --> 00:00:36 I know that's a really short summary.
00:00:36 --> 00:00:39 Nate does a much better job letting you know what they're
00:00:39 --> 00:00:44 doing, what they're capable of, and how you'll benefit from it.
00:00:45 --> 00:00:47 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: So we'll get started with the Fast Five.
00:00:47 --> 00:00:48 What's your name?
00:00:49 --> 00:00:50 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: my name is Nathan or Nate Stuckey.
00:00:52 --> 00:00:54 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: And Nate, where's, what's your farm's name?
00:00:54 --> 00:00:56 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: It's Stuckey Family Ranch
00:00:57 --> 00:00:57 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: And where are you
00:00:57 --> 00:00:58 located
00:00:58 --> 00:01:01 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: located just outside of Fort Scott, Kansas.
00:01:01 --> 00:01:02 So Southeast Kansas,
00:01:03 --> 00:01:04 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Yeah, not too far north of me.
00:01:05 --> 00:01:06 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: no, not too far.
00:01:07 --> 00:01:09 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: And what year did you all start grazing animals?
00:01:10 --> 00:01:13 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: We started in 21 is when we had our first.
00:01:14 --> 00:01:15 First livestock came down.
00:01:15 --> 00:01:17 We got a group of cows
00:01:18 --> 00:01:20 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: And what livestock species do you graze?
00:01:21 --> 00:01:21 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: right now.
00:01:21 --> 00:01:23 Just just cattle.
00:01:23 --> 00:01:29 So wanted to integrate some sheep or goats and chickens.
00:01:29 --> 00:01:35 Not really my Level of expertise and knowledge So if any beginning farmers
00:01:35 --> 00:01:39 are out there in our area in southeast, Kansas that want to do chickens goats or
00:01:39 --> 00:01:43 sheep Please reach out would love to try to work out some sort of Arrangement.
00:01:44 --> 00:01:47 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh yeah, that would be a nice situation.
00:01:48 --> 00:01:49 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Yes,
00:01:49 --> 00:01:51 Cal: Welcome to the grazing grass podcast.
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00:03:20 --> 00:03:24 Speaker 2: For 10 seconds about the farm, mud season is up on us.
00:03:25 --> 00:03:28 Last week we had to really cold with snow.
00:03:28 --> 00:03:31 So now the snow is melting and we're muddy.
00:03:31 --> 00:03:34 In fact, I waited in line to wash my car today.
00:03:35 --> 00:03:40 Which just drives me crazy at the cost it does it, but I like the automated
00:03:40 --> 00:03:42 ones so I don't have to get out.
00:03:42 --> 00:03:45 Yes, I guess I'm a little lazy.
00:03:45 --> 00:03:50 Prefer efficient, but waiting in line to get it done, I'm not so sure.
00:03:51 --> 00:03:53 What's that mud mean for us?
00:03:53 --> 00:03:55 It means spring is, is coming.
00:03:56 --> 00:04:01 Um, we are feeding hay, everything's going good.
00:04:01 --> 00:04:08 I am bringing in some spring calving cows, and I had the plan, and I've said this
00:04:08 --> 00:04:13 for the last few years, of not weaning the calves, because we've talked on different
00:04:13 --> 00:04:17 episodes, and you can see online, people talk about not weaning their calves.
00:04:18 --> 00:04:21 I get to this point, and I get nervous.
00:04:22 --> 00:04:28 Um, for one, I need those cows to gain some weight when the grass gets here.
00:04:29 --> 00:04:34 I think they're pulled down a fair amount, and this is the way my cows exit winter.
00:04:34 --> 00:04:38 I don't put them on a high level of nutrition.
00:04:38 --> 00:04:40 I feed them hay and what grass I have out there.
00:04:41 --> 00:04:43 And I expect them to make it through.
00:04:44 --> 00:04:46 This year the calves have stayed on them.
00:04:46 --> 00:04:51 And, I think last year I weaned early before winter
00:04:51 --> 00:04:52 because I was short on grass.
00:04:53 --> 00:04:54 So this year we had more.
00:04:54 --> 00:04:58 I left the calves on them, but I just think those cows are pulled down too far.
00:04:58 --> 00:05:00 So I'm going to get those cows in and wean calves.
00:05:02 --> 00:05:05 Maybe next year I'll be brave enough to try it without weaning them.
00:05:05 --> 00:05:09 I just think those cows need a full on break to gain some weight.
00:05:10 --> 00:05:12 Let me know your thoughts.
00:05:12 --> 00:05:16 Have you quit weaning your calves?
00:05:16 --> 00:05:21 If so, hop over to the grazing grass community and put it in there.
00:05:21 --> 00:05:22 Let's have a discussion about it.
00:05:22 --> 00:05:25 I think it's a really interesting concept.
00:05:26 --> 00:05:28 I just get a little nervous about it.
00:05:29 --> 00:05:31 For 10 seconds about the podcast,
00:05:33 --> 00:05:34 we've had some issues.
00:05:34 --> 00:05:36 We had an audio issue one week.
00:05:36 --> 00:05:38 We had a video issue.
00:05:39 --> 00:05:41 This week, we hope we're back to normal.
00:05:41 --> 00:05:45 Except, I went to record an episode earlier, and my
00:05:45 --> 00:05:46 internet's not working very good.
00:05:46 --> 00:05:49 So actually, I've gotta do tech support, and see if they can figure
00:05:49 --> 00:05:51 out why my internet's not faster.
00:05:52 --> 00:05:56 I paid too much money for this, for it to be this slow.
00:05:56 --> 00:06:00 Non related, that most of you won't care about, but I've heard enough
00:06:00 --> 00:06:02 about Riley Green and his mustache.
00:06:02 --> 00:06:03 I had to try it.
00:06:04 --> 00:06:07 If you're watching on YouTube, you can probably see it today.
00:06:07 --> 00:06:10 But hopefully by next week, I will be growing my beard back.
00:06:11 --> 00:06:13 And you won't be able to tell.
00:06:13 --> 00:06:14 It may take me two weeks.
00:06:14 --> 00:06:15 We'll see.
00:06:15 --> 00:06:17 Anyway, enough of that.
00:06:17 --> 00:06:18 Let's talk to Nate.
00:06:19 --> 00:06:21 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Nate, you were on the podcast not too long ago,
00:06:21 --> 00:06:26 just last January, and I say last January, last January a year ago,
00:06:27 --> 00:06:29 not just January 25.
00:06:30 --> 00:06:34 So, So, just give us a little bit of an overview.
00:06:34 --> 00:06:39 about your farm, and then we'll talk about what's happened since then.
00:06:40 --> 00:06:45 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Yeah, so we are a cow calf producer focusing
00:06:45 --> 00:06:52 on conception to consumption or birth to bite if you will, so we do finish some
00:06:52 --> 00:06:58 out and then we'll sell those to friends and family and we'll also sell a few at
00:06:58 --> 00:06:59 the sale barn and that sort of thing.
00:06:59 --> 00:07:06 But primary focus is from raising them on our property rotationally managed
00:07:06 --> 00:07:11 regenerative practices, and producing grass fed beef for friends and family.
00:07:12 --> 00:07:16 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: And you're running Wagyu or Wagyu Influenced?
00:07:17 --> 00:07:18 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Good question there.
00:07:18 --> 00:07:25 So yes, most of our cow herd is 50 percent Akaushi or Red Wagyu.
00:07:25 --> 00:07:31 This year, we actually decided to change some stuff up a little bit and
00:07:31 --> 00:07:37 we AI'd to either full blood Mishona or some heat tolerant composites.
00:07:37 --> 00:07:42 Just noticed we had quite a bit of issues in the summer.
00:07:43 --> 00:07:46 with pink eye and performance.
00:07:46 --> 00:07:52 So wanted to make some changes there had done quite a bit of of research
00:07:52 --> 00:07:57 and looking at different options and for kind of what we want to do going
00:07:57 --> 00:08:02 forward the, the Meshona and some of those heat tolerant composites
00:08:02 --> 00:08:04 really made a lot of, a lot of sense.
00:08:04 --> 00:08:10 Still being able to produce a nice tender finishing end product, but also Giving us
00:08:11 --> 00:08:14 some better, uh, heat genetics, obviously.
00:08:14 --> 00:08:18 And another tool that we kind of wanted to add to the toolbox that
00:08:18 --> 00:08:22 we don't have the ability to do now with the cattle is push them a little
00:08:22 --> 00:08:26 harder and get into some of that ultra high density non selective grazing
00:08:26 --> 00:08:28 for, for some parts of the year.
00:08:28 --> 00:08:33 We just, you know, I, I just know now if, if I try to push our cows like
00:08:33 --> 00:08:35 that during certain times of year.
00:08:36 --> 00:08:37 They're all just going to fall apart.
00:08:37 --> 00:08:44 So, wanted to make some changes there just to, again, have another, you know, another
00:08:44 --> 00:08:46 tool or whatever you want to call it.
00:08:46 --> 00:08:48 Something in the chamber that we can use to, to kind of help
00:08:49 --> 00:08:50 push the ground a little harder.
00:08:51 --> 00:08:53 Get the cattle working a little harder and try to regenerate some other
00:08:53 --> 00:08:55 areas faster than we have been doing.
00:08:55 --> 00:08:56 Mm
00:08:56 --> 00:08:58 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Yeah, I, I think that non selective
00:08:58 --> 00:09:00 grazing, or total grazing,
00:09:00 --> 00:09:01 as Jim Elizondo
00:09:02 --> 00:09:03 calls it,
00:09:03 --> 00:09:09 El, Elizondro, Elizondo, Elehon, I, I have to
00:09:09 --> 00:09:12 apologize to him for not getting it out correct.
00:09:12 --> 00:09:12 But.
00:09:12 --> 00:09:17 I think that's very interesting, but I have to agree, I don't I know
00:09:17 --> 00:09:21 there's some people not too far east of me that's gone whole hog on that
00:09:21 --> 00:09:23 and they are doing that all the time.
00:09:24 --> 00:09:29 To me, I know they say you do that for a little bit and you start training
00:09:29 --> 00:09:31 your cows and they get better at it.
00:09:31 --> 00:09:31 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Mm hmm.
00:09:32 --> 00:09:33 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Like you mentioned, I feel like that's
00:09:33 --> 00:09:37 another tool in the toolbox as you look at your context for what
00:09:37 --> 00:09:39 you're wanting to do for that land.
00:09:40 --> 00:09:44 That may be a non selective grazing event you want for that place.
00:09:44 --> 00:09:47 Piece of property or what you're doing right, then at other times you may not.
00:09:49 --> 00:09:54 I'm sure the, the devout of either grazing or whatever grazing ISS gonna
00:09:54 --> 00:09:55 be like, you can't do it that way.
00:09:55 --> 00:09:57 But that's the way I view it.
00:09:57 --> 00:09:57 It's just
00:09:57 --> 00:10:00 another tool that you can use when you need to.
00:10:00 --> 00:10:04 And and in fact we're trying to get some total grazing people
00:10:04 --> 00:10:05 on here so we can talk more
00:10:05 --> 00:10:05 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Are you?
00:10:05 --> 00:10:10 Okay, I Might have a name or two of some people that you should talk to
00:10:10 --> 00:10:10 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh, that'd
00:10:10 --> 00:10:11 be great.
00:10:11 --> 00:10:13 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: somebody that's actually Fairly
00:10:13 --> 00:10:14 close to to you guys down there in
00:10:14 --> 00:10:16 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh, oh, there is.
00:10:16 --> 00:10:19 In fact, I talked to someone really close and we just hadn't been able
00:10:19 --> 00:10:21 to make the schedule work yet,
00:10:21 --> 00:10:21 but we'll,
00:10:22 --> 00:10:22 we'll get
00:10:22 --> 00:10:23 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: probably know who that is.
00:10:23 --> 00:10:23 So
00:10:24 --> 00:10:24 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Yeah, I, I
00:10:24 --> 00:10:25 suspect so.
00:10:26 --> 00:10:29 But we'll, we'll get him on here and we can talk more about that.
00:10:30 --> 00:10:32 I think it's interesting the meshona.
00:10:32 --> 00:10:37 Do you think adding the meshona is going to affect your carcass
00:10:37 --> 00:10:40 quality with your Wagyu influenced?
00:10:41 --> 00:10:43 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: It's a good question, I don't think
00:10:43 --> 00:10:47 so I would imagine we're probably gonna see a little less marbling.
00:10:47 --> 00:10:52 Maybe I don't know for sure, but I've seen some from some guys that have
00:10:52 --> 00:10:55 posted different things on Facebook and the internet where they've done
00:10:55 --> 00:10:59 50 percent Meshona and had very similar carcass qualities to what
00:10:59 --> 00:11:00 they were having with their straight
00:11:00 --> 00:11:00 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh, yes.
00:11:01 --> 00:11:02 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: I don't think there's going to be
00:11:02 --> 00:11:03 too much of a difference there.
00:11:04 --> 00:11:07 And there's also some testing that we're going to do here.
00:11:08 --> 00:11:09 Probably fairly soon.
00:11:09 --> 00:11:13 I would imagine mid March we'll get on that and do some I think it's tenant
00:11:13 --> 00:11:16 testing is what it's called, but it's kind of testing for tenderness.
00:11:16 --> 00:11:18 So we'll test the whole entire herd,
00:11:18 --> 00:11:19 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh, yes.
00:11:19 --> 00:11:19 Yes.
00:11:19 --> 00:11:21 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: so that we have an idea if
00:11:21 --> 00:11:22 they're going to be tender or not.
00:11:22 --> 00:11:26 And it's going to sound cliche that I'm saying this again, but that's
00:11:26 --> 00:11:27 another tool for the toolbox too.
00:11:27 --> 00:11:27 Right?
00:11:27 --> 00:11:31 So if, if, if we're looking at, if we're looking at different animals and
00:11:31 --> 00:11:35 we're deciding, you know, if we've got to cull these ones, well, Maybe that's
00:11:35 --> 00:11:39 an opportunity if she tests high for tenderness that we're taking her in
00:11:39 --> 00:11:43 and she's becoming Hamburger and when we've got an upsell market we can we can
00:11:43 --> 00:11:48 sell that too as opposed to just going Sale barn getting coal cow pricing for
00:11:50 --> 00:11:53 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: This week's episode, Sean was on it, and he's
00:11:53 --> 00:11:54 talking about using sexed semen.
00:11:54 --> 00:11:55 Of course, he's
00:11:55 --> 00:11:56 dairy cattle.
00:11:56 --> 00:12:01 So, in that industry, it's more prevalent, and more AI happens.
00:12:01 --> 00:12:04 But AI's a tool, sexed semen's a tool, that testing.
00:12:05 --> 00:12:09 You know, at some point in your farms Path.
00:12:10 --> 00:12:13 You go from trying to keep every heifer on the ground
00:12:14 --> 00:12:18 to being able to make some culling decisions based upon where you want to go.
00:12:19 --> 00:12:22 And those are all tools to help you get there.
00:12:22 --> 00:12:25 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: very much So just anything that we can kind of do
00:12:25 --> 00:12:31 to add a little value or decommoditize ourselves to some degree is, you know,
00:12:31 --> 00:12:35 that's all extra, extra revenue that we can put in, put in our pocket as
00:12:35 --> 00:12:37 opposed to just going sale barn route.
00:12:38 --> 00:12:41 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: The Michona sounds really interesting to me.
00:12:41 --> 00:12:44 I see a lot of people post about it on Facebook.
00:12:44 --> 00:12:49 Some people not too far from me using some Michona influenced at least.
00:12:49 --> 00:12:52 I saw one of my neighbors got a Michona bull and I say neighbors.
00:12:53 --> 00:12:55 He's probably 30 miles away, maybe 40.
00:12:55 --> 00:12:58 But so it's interesting to see more of that Michona.
00:12:58 --> 00:13:01 Genetics showing up.
00:13:01 --> 00:13:05 What did you, what bull did you AI to or did you use multiple bulls?
00:13:06 --> 00:13:08 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: so we used multiple this year
00:13:08 --> 00:13:09 and we'll continue to do that.
00:13:09 --> 00:13:14 The one that we used on the Meshona side is, the nickname was Grumpy.
00:13:14 --> 00:13:18 So if you're in, if you're, if you're in the Meshona space, you probably have
00:13:18 --> 00:13:20 heard of this bowler, know about him.
00:13:20 --> 00:13:22 Got through just a guy that I knew.
00:13:23 --> 00:13:28 randomly that's a whole other story of how we met, but you know, he had some semen.
00:13:28 --> 00:13:30 And so we took advantage of that and got some from him.
00:13:31 --> 00:13:37 And then also used a little bit of Pharaoh Kit Pharao's He-Man is
00:13:37 --> 00:13:41 another heat tolerant composite that's got some Mishona, Red
00:13:41 --> 00:13:43 Angus, and Ramos and Wano in it.
00:13:43 --> 00:13:46 So those, those are the two that we used.
00:13:46 --> 00:13:50 Pretty excited to see what those calves look like here coming up in a few months.
00:13:51 --> 00:13:53 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh, that will be very exciting to see and I
00:13:53 --> 00:13:59 know a Pharo Cattle Company has a fair number of heat composite bulls
00:13:59 --> 00:14:02 They're selling each year or heat tolerant composite
00:14:03 --> 00:14:04 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Yeah, that seems to kind of be
00:14:04 --> 00:14:05 gaining more and more popularity.
00:14:06 --> 00:14:10 And you're even kind of seeing it North of us where people are at in just, you know,
00:14:10 --> 00:14:15 maybe they're using 50 percent Michonne or 50 percent heat composite to get 25
00:14:15 --> 00:14:20 percent just to kind of help out in the summer months because, you know, even if
00:14:20 --> 00:14:23 you go as far north as Michigan, you're still running into pretty hot summers.
00:14:23 --> 00:14:24 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh, yeah
00:14:26 --> 00:14:32 Yeah, I was about to say we really haven't done anything on that front, but then,
00:14:32 --> 00:14:36 then again, I'm running a South Pole Bull on my dad's cows part of the time, and
00:14:36 --> 00:14:40 you could say, well, they're, they've been constructed to handle that heat,
00:14:40 --> 00:14:41 so I guess I can't really say that.
00:14:44 --> 00:14:45 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: And we're talking about heat
00:14:45 --> 00:14:48 composite when we've got zero degree temperatures right now, but
00:14:49 --> 00:14:51 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh yeah, yeah, well, I hope everyone that
00:14:51 --> 00:14:55 complained about the hot weather during summer is outside enjoying this.
00:14:55 --> 00:14:55 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Right,
00:14:56 --> 00:14:59 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Actually, I don't find it too bad if the wind's not
00:14:59 --> 00:15:01 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: right if the wind's not there you can layer
00:15:01 --> 00:15:02 up and you'll be all right if It's
00:15:02 --> 00:15:06 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Yeah, but when the wind is blowing Oh man,
00:15:06 --> 00:15:13 Yeah, you know, with your tenon, is that what, tenet, is that the
00:15:13 --> 00:15:14 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: e n e t.
00:15:14 --> 00:15:18 Yeah, I actually heard about that I think through Kit Pharo is the one
00:15:18 --> 00:15:20 that kind of started testing all of his
00:15:21 --> 00:15:21 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: oh yeah,
00:15:22 --> 00:15:25 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: so That's how I got started and kind of seeing
00:15:25 --> 00:15:29 that I was like, well, that's a pretty easy test to do I ordered the test kits.
00:15:29 --> 00:15:33 I talked with a vet that's pretty close to me and he said well That's
00:15:33 --> 00:15:36 a that's a simple test You don't need to pay me to come out just come
00:15:36 --> 00:15:39 out to Our operation sometime and i'll show you how to handle all this
00:15:39 --> 00:15:41 so you can do it all on your own So
00:15:41 --> 00:15:42 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: are you, are you just,
00:15:42 --> 00:15:43 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: that goes But
00:15:43 --> 00:15:45 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: are you just pulling a blood
00:15:45 --> 00:15:47 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: yeah, it's a blood vial that you put on like
00:15:47 --> 00:15:50 a little they have a little card that you just put on Drop some bloodlets
00:15:50 --> 00:15:54 on, you write on what the animal, you know, identification numbers are and
00:15:54 --> 00:15:57 you send it in to them and I forget exactly how long it takes them to
00:15:58 --> 00:16:01 Come back with the results four to six weeks or something like that.
00:16:01 --> 00:16:03 And then you've got got that data.
00:16:03 --> 00:16:07 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: oh yes, so we use bioprim pregnancy testing.
00:16:07 --> 00:16:08 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: hmm Is
00:16:08 --> 00:16:09 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: I pull a, a blood vial.
00:16:09 --> 00:16:10 Yes, it is.
00:16:10 --> 00:16:11 I pull that blood.
00:16:12 --> 00:16:15 Of course, you send that vial off to them and we use S.
00:16:15 --> 00:16:15 E.
00:16:15 --> 00:16:15 K.
00:16:15 --> 00:16:17 Genetics there in Southeast Kansas.
00:16:17 --> 00:16:19 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: that's who I just talked to so we're doing that
00:16:19 --> 00:16:21 exact same test I think coming up here.
00:16:21 --> 00:16:21 So
00:16:21 --> 00:16:22 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh, yeah.
00:16:23 --> 00:16:25 And that, I love doing that test.
00:16:25 --> 00:16:26 It's not hard.
00:16:26 --> 00:16:31 I can, I mean, it, you get results really early.
00:16:31 --> 00:16:36 I believe that on open cows, it's 99 percent accurate.
00:16:36 --> 00:16:37 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: what he was saying.
00:16:37 --> 00:16:37 Mm
00:16:38 --> 00:16:41 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: On bread cows it's 95 percent accurate and
00:16:41 --> 00:16:47 that accuracy suffers on bread cows and this is my, it's my understanding
00:16:47 --> 00:16:48 so if I'm wrong someone can tell me I'm wrong.
00:16:49 --> 00:16:53 It's because you're testing so early because you can test like 28 days
00:16:53 --> 00:16:58 out and start to know but you still have some early embryonic deaths that
00:16:58 --> 00:17:02 occur at that time and that really factors into that 5 percent there.
00:17:03 --> 00:17:05 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: I think that's exactly what I was actually talking
00:17:05 --> 00:17:07 with him yesterday about all this stuff.
00:17:07 --> 00:17:08 So
00:17:08 --> 00:17:08 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh yeah,
00:17:08 --> 00:17:09 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: you're pretty spot on with that.
00:17:10 --> 00:17:11 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: I, I really like that.
00:17:11 --> 00:17:17 It gives us a nice early early result that we, we use and we make
00:17:17 --> 00:17:18 culling decisions based upon that.
00:17:19 --> 00:17:19 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Yeah
00:17:20 --> 00:17:22 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: And and occasionally we'll have a
00:17:22 --> 00:17:23 cow we kept that turned up open.
00:17:24 --> 00:17:30 But typically, you know, I'd rather error that way than, well I don't know.
00:17:30 --> 00:17:31 It could be a debate.
00:17:31 --> 00:17:32 Do I want to error one way or the other way?
00:17:33 --> 00:17:36 The great thing is, if they're open, most likely they got sold.
00:17:38 --> 00:17:39 So we really like that.
00:17:39 --> 00:17:40 That's really easy to pull in there.
00:17:40 --> 00:17:40 So.
00:17:41 --> 00:17:45 For this tenant test, you're, you're pulling blood, but you're
00:17:45 --> 00:17:47 putting it on the card, then you're mailing the cards in.
00:17:48 --> 00:17:51 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: So and it seems pretty accurate from what I've read
00:17:51 --> 00:17:53 You just got to make sure everything's pretty clean and you got a good
00:17:53 --> 00:17:54 workspace or whatever you're doing there
00:17:54 --> 00:17:58 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Are you, are you putting each card into a Ziploc, or?
00:17:58 --> 00:17:59 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: it's some sort.
00:17:59 --> 00:18:00 I think that's probably what we'll do.
00:18:01 --> 00:18:04 So they all just get put in together Like I said, you write down the
00:18:04 --> 00:18:08 identification numbers or tag numbers you've got or however you keep records
00:18:08 --> 00:18:11 of your cattle So when you get them back, you can tell which ones they go to
00:18:13 --> 00:18:14 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Who is that through?
00:18:15 --> 00:18:16 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: It's actually through tenet.
00:18:16 --> 00:18:16 I believe is the
00:18:17 --> 00:18:17 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh, is
00:18:17 --> 00:18:20 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: yeah, if you just google tenet or tenet beef t e n
00:18:20 --> 00:18:23 e t You'll you'll find those test results.
00:18:23 --> 00:18:25 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: I've seen some of those, and I've often
00:18:25 --> 00:18:29 thought I need someone on the podcast from there to talk about that.
00:18:29 --> 00:18:31 That's, I really should reach out and do that.
00:18:32 --> 00:18:34 How's the marketing of your beef going?
00:18:36 --> 00:18:37 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: It's it's going okay
00:18:39 --> 00:18:44 just sat through a seminar with Amy Hay from Sell Beef Direct, I believe.
00:18:44 --> 00:18:47 So, she gave quite a bit, good pointers and stuff to kind of help.
00:18:48 --> 00:18:51 you know, keywords, what you need to use, how often you need to
00:18:51 --> 00:18:52 be posting, that sort of thing.
00:18:52 --> 00:18:56 Cause I think that's one of the, one of the issues that I struggle with is, you
00:18:56 --> 00:19:01 know, I'll be consistent with posting for two to three months and then, you know,
00:19:01 --> 00:19:05 I'll get busy or it's a vacation or we're jumping into something else and then I'm
00:19:05 --> 00:19:08 not consistently putting that out there.
00:19:08 --> 00:19:12 And somehow with the algorithm on the different social media platforms,
00:19:12 --> 00:19:14 it gets kind of lost and then you're not getting as many views.
00:19:15 --> 00:19:15 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh
00:19:15 --> 00:19:18 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: So, so that's one of the things I've been
00:19:18 --> 00:19:19 trying to be more conscious about.
00:19:20 --> 00:19:25 And focused on is having constant content that's, you know, going out once or
00:19:25 --> 00:19:29 twice a week, that sort of thing, just to kind of keep, keep the name out there.
00:19:29 --> 00:19:32 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: I think, I have some trailers I run out.
00:19:32 --> 00:19:35 And when you talk to the people who's doing a lot of that, they're like, you
00:19:35 --> 00:19:38 gotta post everyday multiple times a day.
00:19:38 --> 00:19:40 I never get that done.
00:19:40 --> 00:19:42 I post a few times a week.
00:19:42 --> 00:19:44 But they're like, you gotta post that.
00:19:44 --> 00:19:46 So, it, it's always interesting.
00:19:46 --> 00:19:49 How are you managing all that posting?
00:19:49 --> 00:19:52 Are you just, when you think about it, you go in and do it?
00:19:52 --> 00:19:54 Or are you using some scheduling software?
00:19:54 --> 00:19:58 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: So for my personal one, it's just, I'll
00:19:58 --> 00:20:01 try to take extra photos or stuff if I'm out there for different things.
00:20:01 --> 00:20:03 And then try to just be on top of it.
00:20:04 --> 00:20:08 Now, when it comes to like the business side of it and like, if
00:20:08 --> 00:20:11 we're using YouTube, we'll, we'll do some scheduling and stuff.
00:20:11 --> 00:20:15 Like if I know I've got grazing conference that I'm attending or that we're working
00:20:15 --> 00:20:18 or doing something you know, we'll just schedule those to be released out.
00:20:18 --> 00:20:20 So they're kind of constantly dripping.
00:20:20 --> 00:20:20 Mm
00:20:20 --> 00:20:21 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh yeah.
00:20:22 --> 00:20:24 You know that's for the podcast.
00:20:24 --> 00:20:26 I use some scheduling software.
00:20:26 --> 00:20:28 I try and load it up once a week.
00:20:28 --> 00:20:32 I'll be honest this week I'm a little behind so I gotta work on that later But
00:20:32 --> 00:20:38 I try and load up my scheduling software so it drips out all week the next week
00:20:38 --> 00:20:42 I go in and do it again, so it's not something I'm having to remember to do
00:20:43 --> 00:20:44 it cost me a little bit of money though
00:20:44 --> 00:20:45 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: sure?
00:20:45 --> 00:20:46 Which is, which is fine, right?
00:20:46 --> 00:20:47 If they're helping you get that
00:20:48 --> 00:20:48 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Right,
00:20:48 --> 00:20:49 right, right.
00:20:49 --> 00:20:50 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: worth paying for.
00:20:50 --> 00:20:52 What are you, what software you're using?
00:20:53 --> 00:20:55 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: I used to use Buffer, because Buffer
00:20:55 --> 00:20:59 lets you connect three social media channels free of charge.
00:21:00 --> 00:21:03 And so I was doing that, and then
00:21:05 --> 00:21:10 I moved away from Buffer to 1UP, and that's O N E U P.
00:21:11 --> 00:21:16 And I, I like it Buffer's interface may be a little nicer UI.
00:21:17 --> 00:21:23 But 1UP does it, and I'm happy with 1I, and I have 10 social accounts connected
00:21:23 --> 00:21:26 to it, 5 for the podcast, and 5 others.
00:21:26 --> 00:21:31 And it cost me, I want to say, 18 a month.
00:21:31 --> 00:21:32 I could,
00:21:32 --> 00:21:33 I'd have to,
00:21:34 --> 00:21:35 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: something around there though.
00:21:35 --> 00:21:35 But yeah,
00:21:35 --> 00:21:36 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: yeah, something around
00:21:36 --> 00:21:37 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: pretty,
00:21:37 --> 00:21:39 reasonable for being able to handle that.
00:21:40 --> 00:21:43 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: And I think buffer was along that line,
00:21:43 --> 00:21:44 but maybe a little bit higher.
00:21:44 --> 00:21:49 I try and pinch pennies, so if it was 25, I was like, I'll go with 18.
00:21:50 --> 00:21:53 The, the problem I have with that, especially for the podcast, and
00:21:53 --> 00:21:59 while this isn't really closely related to, to grazing grass, social
00:21:59 --> 00:22:02 media and managing that is important if you're trying to sell beef.
00:22:03 --> 00:22:06 One thing I try and do for the podcast is tag our guests
00:22:06 --> 00:22:08 in our are social media that
00:22:08 --> 00:22:09 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Oh yeah.
00:22:09 --> 00:22:09 Yeah.
00:22:10 --> 00:22:12 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: But tagging people is difficult
00:22:12 --> 00:22:13 through that scheduling software.
00:22:14 --> 00:22:18 And one reason, I posted on Reddit about that, trying to figure out
00:22:18 --> 00:22:18 what I was doing
00:22:19 --> 00:22:19 wrong.
00:22:19 --> 00:22:24 And actually the founder of 1UP was he came on there and he, he's like well, you
00:22:24 --> 00:22:30 can only tag, and I don't even remember the rules, you can only tag a personal
00:22:30 --> 00:22:33 page, you can't tag a business page,
00:22:33 --> 00:22:38 you can't, There's certain rules to that which causes all that friction.
00:22:38 --> 00:22:42 So when you go to do it sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
00:22:42 --> 00:22:43 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Mm hmm.
00:22:43 --> 00:22:45 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: So, so basically I've, I've gotten to where
00:22:45 --> 00:22:50 I email my guests and I just post and, want them to go find it, which
00:22:50 --> 00:22:55 is not the best situation, but man, I wish the tagging Worked better
00:22:55 --> 00:22:58 and it doesn't work the same across platforms as well.
00:22:58 --> 00:23:02 You know, you got to do it one way for Instagram one way for Facebook
00:23:02 --> 00:23:03 and you think those would be the same
00:23:04 --> 00:23:08 and then if you're using blue sky or Twitter or any of the others
00:23:10 --> 00:23:11 great thing on a farm.
00:23:11 --> 00:23:16 You're you're not having to tag people Of course, it drives me crazy I'm gonna
00:23:16 --> 00:23:18 get on a soapbox for just a little bit.
00:23:18 --> 00:23:25 I hate Facebook's at everyone or at What's the other one?
00:23:25 --> 00:23:28 They give, cause a notification go out to everyone.
00:23:29 --> 00:23:32 I don't like that because I get those notifications I'm like, no
00:23:32 --> 00:23:34 don't tag everyone or add everyone,
00:23:35 --> 00:23:38 but then again if you're on a farm and you're selling meat
00:23:38 --> 00:23:40 You might want to use that tag
00:23:40 --> 00:23:40 some
00:23:41 --> 00:23:43 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: but but yeah, I agree with you there.
00:23:43 --> 00:23:46 There's a lot of times I'm like, why am I tagged in this like this is this has
00:23:46 --> 00:23:47 no relevance to anything that I'm doing
00:23:49 --> 00:23:54 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Yeah, as Nate as you look for Or look
00:23:54 --> 00:23:57 forward to 2025 here in February.
00:23:58 --> 00:24:00 What do you think is coming up this year for you?
00:24:00 --> 00:24:02 Is there something you're going to do differently?
00:24:02 --> 00:24:04 Just continue on your path?
00:24:05 --> 00:24:06 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Good question.
00:24:06 --> 00:24:09 So we're actually gonna make some pretty big I would call them kind of
00:24:09 --> 00:24:15 wholesale changes had, I think he was on here recently with you, Dale Strickler
00:24:16 --> 00:24:16 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh,
00:24:16 --> 00:24:16 yes.
00:24:17 --> 00:24:20 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: and he did a full farm consultation for us
00:24:20 --> 00:24:21 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh, yes.
00:24:21 --> 00:24:24 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Which was which was really enlightening and
00:24:24 --> 00:24:29 eye opening One of the issues that we struggle with is is we're in the
00:24:29 --> 00:24:33 fescue belt So that's about all we have and we've got quite a bit of some
00:24:33 --> 00:24:37 really nasty brushy woody area like this Can't walk through it, can't get
00:24:37 --> 00:24:38 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh, yeah.
00:24:38 --> 00:24:40 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: And so he came out and actually talked with us.
00:24:40 --> 00:24:43 And so what we're going to do is we're going to terminate that hopefully
00:24:43 --> 00:24:49 coming up in May and then go into it with some summer annuals and,
00:24:49 --> 00:24:50 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh, yes.
00:24:51 --> 00:24:54 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: try to, try to get some summer
00:24:54 --> 00:24:57 annuals probably for a year or two going, and then hopefully go back
00:24:57 --> 00:25:03 to getting some native pasture on roughly 30 to 40 percent of our land.
00:25:03 --> 00:25:04 operation.
00:25:04 --> 00:25:09 Just because A, we were calving and calving in and fescue bad last year
00:25:09 --> 00:25:13 and had a big bad case of pink eye and fighting through that pretty hard
00:25:13 --> 00:25:17 with with our herd and wanted some other options and also just because
00:25:17 --> 00:25:20 You know, fescue is great at certain times of the year.
00:25:20 --> 00:25:23 I know a lot of people fight it and aren't big fans of it.
00:25:23 --> 00:25:25 I like it when it, when it's, when it's.
00:25:25 --> 00:25:29 got its rest and when you're using it at the correct time, but we needed something
00:25:29 --> 00:25:33 that was going to work better for those, those hot summer months to, to help our
00:25:33 --> 00:25:33 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh, yeah.
00:25:34 --> 00:25:37 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: perform to where we wanted them to go.
00:25:37 --> 00:25:40 So that, that is, that's one big change.
00:25:40 --> 00:25:46 Another one that we're trying is the Steve Campbell water mineral program.
00:25:46 --> 00:25:51 We're, so we're actually, we're running two tanks kind of side by side.
00:25:53 --> 00:25:58 with the saltwater brine mix in there and then one just a
00:25:58 --> 00:26:00 regular water for the cattle.
00:26:02 --> 00:26:04 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Have you, have you already started doing that?
00:26:04 --> 00:26:06 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: We have started doing that and, and
00:26:06 --> 00:26:10 cattle look like they're in pretty good condition, so pretty happy
00:26:10 --> 00:26:12 with, with how it's performed so far.
00:26:12 --> 00:26:15 The real test will be when we get into calving season and start
00:26:15 --> 00:26:19 seeing, you know, and then we can compare how many cases do we have
00:26:19 --> 00:26:21 last year pink eye versus this year.
00:26:21 --> 00:26:25 So try to kind of tackle that pink eye issue three different
00:26:25 --> 00:26:31 ways mineral program, genetics, and different forage options.
00:26:32 --> 00:26:36 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Yeah, I was thinking your heat tolerant composite
00:26:36 --> 00:26:39 bulls with those breeds that's in that and you're marched up to.
00:26:40 --> 00:26:43 Marshona should help with that pinkeye issue.
00:26:43 --> 00:26:45 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: I would think hopefully, yeah, quite a bit.
00:26:45 --> 00:26:49 I think, you know, they've been there, spent their whole life in Africa and
00:26:49 --> 00:26:52 the heat, they're going to be pretty, pretty used to that sort of stuff.
00:26:52 --> 00:26:56 So, and, you know, we, we do try to focus, we have some black Meshona
00:26:56 --> 00:27:00 semen that we'll use too, but we try to focus on the reds you know, because
00:27:00 --> 00:27:03 all of our red calves this year, we didn't have one issue of pink eye and.
00:27:04 --> 00:27:04 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh
00:27:04 --> 00:27:05 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: black, calves, we got it
00:27:05 --> 00:27:07 got hit pretty hard, and,
00:27:09 --> 00:27:12 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: We typically, I'm trying to think
00:27:12 --> 00:27:16 back to the years, typically we may have a case or two of pinkeye.
00:27:16 --> 00:27:21 It's not very much our neighbors different directions, varying directions, varying
00:27:21 --> 00:27:24 distances away from me, will pinkeye
00:27:24 --> 00:27:25 issues.
00:27:25 --> 00:27:28 For the most part, haven't had too much of those issues.
00:27:28 --> 00:27:29 Except, I use a bull.
00:27:30 --> 00:27:33 Used the bull probably in 19 and 20.
00:27:33 --> 00:27:36 Yeah, because I think those were the 21 calves.
00:27:37 --> 00:27:41 That the calves out of him, I had a set of calves out of him and I had
00:27:42 --> 00:27:44 another set that I'd bought the cows.
00:27:44 --> 00:27:48 And on that set every one of his calves had pink eye.
00:27:49 --> 00:27:51 None of the purchased calves had pink eye.
00:27:52 --> 00:27:53 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: None of the purchase but
00:27:53 --> 00:27:54 the ones you bred did, huh?
00:27:54 --> 00:27:54 Do
00:27:54 --> 00:27:55 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Yeah, yeah.
00:27:56 --> 00:27:57 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: do you think that's probably something to do
00:27:57 --> 00:27:59 with genetics in there, or the breed, or
00:28:00 --> 00:28:02 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Well, I think it's a combination there.
00:28:02 --> 00:28:03 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Mm hmm.
00:28:03 --> 00:28:06 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: So, because he was a breed that I would say
00:28:06 --> 00:28:08 maybe a little bit more prone to it,
00:28:08 --> 00:28:12 and the others were a heartier breed that shouldn't have been, or not as likely to,
00:28:13 --> 00:28:15 but it comes back to genetics there.
00:28:16 --> 00:28:20 So, I don't know if you were using, like, if I was using two Angus bulls.
00:28:20 --> 00:28:23 I don't know if I'd get that nice, clear definition.
00:28:24 --> 00:28:27 That bull had kevs that all got pink eye and this bull did not.
00:28:28 --> 00:28:31 But these were different breeds and it was night as Night and day, difference.
00:28:32 --> 00:28:32 Yeah.
00:28:33 --> 00:28:33 Yeah.
00:28:33 --> 00:28:38 Which, which means even, even if you're using the same bulls, just getting
00:28:38 --> 00:28:40 that information and finding out.
00:28:41 --> 00:28:46 Does the place you're, you're purchasing a bull from, do they struggle with that?
00:28:46 --> 00:28:47 Is that an issue?
00:28:48 --> 00:28:52 You know, for your own herd, as you grow it, if you're not keeping any of
00:28:52 --> 00:28:56 those, you're, you're working towards getting those genetics out of your
00:28:56 --> 00:28:58 herd, anyone who suffers from pinkeye.
00:29:00 --> 00:29:02 at the same time, when you're growing, if you've got too many
00:29:02 --> 00:29:05 with pinkeye, you can't just go sell everything that got pinkeye.
00:29:07 --> 00:29:07 It's,
00:29:08 --> 00:29:08 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Yeah,
00:29:08 --> 00:29:09 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: it's a
00:29:09 --> 00:29:09 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: right.
00:29:09 --> 00:29:10 It's a balancing act, right?
00:29:10 --> 00:29:11 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Right.
00:29:13 --> 00:29:14 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: You got to still be able to grow
00:29:14 --> 00:29:16 if that's what you're trying to do, or if you're not growing, you're at
00:29:16 --> 00:29:19 least improving, hopefully, right?
00:29:19 --> 00:29:22 You should be more excited for your calf crop every year.
00:29:22 --> 00:29:23 Than you were the previous year.
00:29:23 --> 00:29:25 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: That'll be interesting to see how your
00:29:25 --> 00:29:27 pinkeye situation goes this year.
00:29:27 --> 00:29:30 It's also interesting with your summer annuals and getting those
00:29:30 --> 00:29:32 in and seeing how that goes.
00:29:33 --> 00:29:34 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: yeah, I'm, I'm pretty excited about
00:29:34 --> 00:29:36 it, so, we'll, we'll we'll see.
00:29:36 --> 00:29:39 It's, it's you know, we did, we used this once.
00:29:39 --> 00:29:45 We did some fall we did some rye cover cropping on some old kind of just bare.
00:29:47 --> 00:29:50 used to be just row crop ground that we have that really
00:29:50 --> 00:29:51 couldn't get a lot growing.
00:29:51 --> 00:29:56 So we brush hogged that down and then came in and we actually used a drone to put the
00:29:56 --> 00:29:57 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh yes,
00:29:57 --> 00:29:58 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: I was a little, I was a little nervous
00:29:58 --> 00:30:01 one of my neighbors might shoot it down out of the sky just because, you
00:30:01 --> 00:30:04 know, we got a drone flying around, they don't know what's going on.
00:30:04 --> 00:30:05 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: right.
00:30:05 --> 00:30:07 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: it was, it was, it was really cool to see that.
00:30:08 --> 00:30:11 So I think, I think we'll try to incorporate that some more this year
00:30:11 --> 00:30:15 and use some more of that and have that come out just because, you know,
00:30:16 --> 00:30:18 If you're going to broadcast seed, you know, you don't have to worry
00:30:18 --> 00:30:21 about it being too wet or nasty.
00:30:21 --> 00:30:24 You're not, you know, you're not putting big ruts or anything in the ground.
00:30:24 --> 00:30:26 And they had a pretty efficient system.
00:30:26 --> 00:30:29 I mean, he would do, you know, like one or two passes down, I think,
00:30:29 --> 00:30:33 which covered maybe an acre is what he could hold and his, his drone.
00:30:33 --> 00:30:35 And then they'd pop it out.
00:30:35 --> 00:30:37 We'd put more seed in, they'd switch out a battery and he was taken off.
00:30:37 --> 00:30:40 And I mean, it took him, I think we didn't, we only did like 15
00:30:40 --> 00:30:43 to 20 acres, but it took him just a little over an hour.
00:30:44 --> 00:30:45 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: oh yeah.
00:30:46 --> 00:30:50 That drone seating, I haven't heard of anyone doing it around me.
00:30:51 --> 00:30:54 but it looks really interesting and with the drone they're
00:30:54 --> 00:30:56 able to do GPS and map that
00:30:57 --> 00:30:57 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Yeah.
00:30:57 --> 00:30:58 Yeah.
00:30:58 --> 00:30:59 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: make it pretty efficient.
00:31:00 --> 00:31:02 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: And so we're gonna we're gonna still try
00:31:02 --> 00:31:06 hopefully if we can get him depending on schedule to do to do some we've got a
00:31:06 --> 00:31:10 section where we bale grazed through it for kind of the winter and we would like
00:31:10 --> 00:31:14 to go back in on top of that and frost seed and some clover and different things.
00:31:14 --> 00:31:17 And I'm seeing more and more of that with the drone usage.
00:31:19 --> 00:31:21 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: that'll be interesting to see how that goes.
00:31:22 --> 00:31:26 I, I keep thinking I'll see someone around here doing some drone seeding,
00:31:26 --> 00:31:27 or drone spraying.
00:31:27 --> 00:31:32 I haven't seen any drone spraying here, and I say I haven't, you know, when you
00:31:32 --> 00:31:36 look up at the sky here, and I see so many miles around me, it's not a very
00:31:36 --> 00:31:40 big box when you can, thinking about a drone, because they're flying pretty low.
00:31:41 --> 00:31:43 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Yeah, but it was, I mean, it was, it was
00:31:43 --> 00:31:45 pretty cool to see, like, he would adjust the, the height of it based on
00:31:45 --> 00:31:49 the wind and seating rate and stuff, and then it, yeah, it's, I mean, it's
00:31:49 --> 00:31:52 kind of like autopilot, they just get the coordinates plugged in and it just.
00:31:53 --> 00:31:54 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh yeah,
00:31:54 --> 00:31:55 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: There's a few times with line of sight he had to
00:31:55 --> 00:31:59 go out there and kind of manually work it, but for the most part it's, it's just
00:31:59 --> 00:32:02 kind of straight up and straight back and they just move over and keep going.
00:32:03 --> 00:32:05 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: yeah, very interesting Nate.
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00:33:10 --> 00:33:11 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: What is rooted ag?
00:33:12 --> 00:33:15 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: So we are a, at the end of the day, it's just
00:33:15 --> 00:33:20 kind of a, it's a data collection tool to help farmers and ranchers make better use
00:33:20 --> 00:33:23 of their data on their own operations.
00:33:23 --> 00:33:25 You know, you see it in just about anything.
00:33:25 --> 00:33:29 If you're in sports, they're always collecting data on, you know, This guy
00:33:29 --> 00:33:33 shoots better from this side or it's, you know, this play works better, you
00:33:33 --> 00:33:36 know, there's, there's constant data, you know, and we're, we're talking
00:33:36 --> 00:33:40 social media, they're tracking data on us and, you know, seeing trends and,
00:33:40 --> 00:33:40 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: are,
00:33:41 --> 00:33:42 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: and finding different, different things.
00:33:42 --> 00:33:48 So we want to help farmers and ranchers track their operation, collecting
00:33:48 --> 00:33:50 data on their operation to help them.
00:33:51 --> 00:33:54 You know achieve whatever those goals are that they're trying to achieve.
00:33:54 --> 00:33:59 I mean mainly it's reducing inputs, right and Increasing profits.
00:34:00 --> 00:34:04 Oh, but finding different ways and tracking, you know, whether something
00:34:04 --> 00:34:08 worked or it didn't work Why was it manual issue or management issue?
00:34:08 --> 00:34:11 Was it weather driven something outside of your control?
00:34:12 --> 00:34:16 And then just helping them kind of navigate As they go forward in
00:34:16 --> 00:34:21 making correct, hopefully, correct changes or implementation practices.
00:34:22 --> 00:34:27 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Is that something that the, the farmer subscribes to and
00:34:27 --> 00:34:31 they input all the information or you all coming on site and doing some testing?
00:34:32 --> 00:34:33 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Good question.
00:34:33 --> 00:34:37 So we do both We've got a, we've got a platform now so they can,
00:34:37 --> 00:34:40 they can upload as much data as, as they'd like to or want to.
00:34:41 --> 00:34:44 You know, we'd like to see recent soil tests if they've had those
00:34:44 --> 00:34:46 done and incorporate those.
00:34:46 --> 00:34:48 We've got a pretty quick way to upload it.
00:34:48 --> 00:34:51 We're also working, trying to find a way through the USDA to be able
00:34:51 --> 00:34:55 to pull some different data on operations so we don't have to.
00:34:56 --> 00:34:59 Have them go out there and kind of locate all of their pastures because I know
00:34:59 --> 00:35:03 that's hard to do for especially if you're you know You've got different leased
00:35:03 --> 00:35:07 ground or own ground and kind of spread out through a county or whatever so trying
00:35:07 --> 00:35:14 to find some ways to to pull that data into and then We've actually got an AI
00:35:14 --> 00:35:21 tool that we can use so When it comes to actually collecting data I use it, when
00:35:21 --> 00:35:24 I'm done on the operation, it's a quick phone call and it's two to five minutes.
00:35:24 --> 00:35:29 I record all of my data and then it gets uploaded and logged onto the platform.
00:35:30 --> 00:35:31 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh yes,
00:35:32 --> 00:35:34 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Because one of the, one of the biggest things
00:35:34 --> 00:35:40 that, especially on our operation that we're tracking, is time spent because that
00:35:40 --> 00:35:46 kind of seems to be the biggest hurdle you hear for people making the switch to
00:35:46 --> 00:35:50 Regenerative agriculture is, well, it's, you know, it costs so much time to get
00:35:50 --> 00:35:51 out there and move the cows every day.
00:35:52 --> 00:35:55 Well, we want to be able to track all that so we can say, hey, it's, it's really
00:35:55 --> 00:35:57 not that big of a time commitment, right?
00:35:57 --> 00:36:00 I mean, especially once, yeah, you're going to have maybe a little, some
00:36:00 --> 00:36:01 headaches in the beginning, right?
00:36:01 --> 00:36:04 Of getting them used to the hot wire and getting moved.
00:36:04 --> 00:36:07 But once, once you get them trained and they're used to it,
00:36:07 --> 00:36:08 it's a pretty well oiled machine.
00:36:09 --> 00:36:12 And it doesn't take nearly as much time as I think what, what, what
00:36:12 --> 00:36:15 people would think it takes to get out there and, and to move cattle.
00:36:16 --> 00:36:18 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Yeah, I, I agree with that.
00:36:18 --> 00:36:21 You know, that's always the, you're going out there every day.
00:36:21 --> 00:36:22 I don't have time for that.
00:36:23 --> 00:36:27 Well, every day during the winter, you're spending lots of time because
00:36:27 --> 00:36:32 you're, you're going out and you're feeding hay, you're checking them,
00:36:32 --> 00:36:35 and you know, for, for us with moving them, once the cows are
00:36:35 --> 00:36:36 used to it, it's easy to move.
00:36:37 --> 00:36:42 We do our hay feeding in a very concise way.
00:36:42 --> 00:36:47 I mean, I spend, I spent two hours and put out hay enough for a week and a half
00:36:48 --> 00:36:48 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: hmm.
00:36:48 --> 00:36:50 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Not yesterday, it was cold yesterday.
00:36:51 --> 00:36:52 I did that a couple days ago.
00:36:53 --> 00:36:55 Yeah, because I didn't want to be out there in the cold
00:36:55 --> 00:36:55 weather.
00:36:56 --> 00:36:57 Now I will go look at them today
00:36:58 --> 00:37:02 and greet them and they'll be unhappy with me, but that's, they've got
00:37:02 --> 00:37:06 everything they need and then I'm just giving them the hay as they need it.
00:37:06 --> 00:37:06 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: hmm.
00:37:07 --> 00:37:09 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: And I would definitely argue my method
00:37:09 --> 00:37:13 is more meth, more efficient than going out there every day.
00:37:13 --> 00:37:14 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Right.
00:37:14 --> 00:37:17 I mean, especially because you factor in how much time are you spent to get
00:37:17 --> 00:37:18 that tractor fired up and running.
00:37:18 --> 00:37:18 Yeah.
00:37:19 --> 00:37:22 You know, if you can plan it and you can get in front of some weather
00:37:22 --> 00:37:25 and stuff and get a couple weeks set up like you, I think, you know, you
00:37:25 --> 00:37:28 talked about week and a half couple of weeks and get some paddocks built,
00:37:28 --> 00:37:31 especially because bale grazing, you're not moving them every day, right?
00:37:31 --> 00:37:32 I mean, we're not, so,
00:37:32 --> 00:37:33 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: right now.
00:37:34 --> 00:37:35 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: but we like, we just have the, you know,
00:37:35 --> 00:37:39 especially, you know, In the Midwest out here, you're going to get some really nice
00:37:39 --> 00:37:44 days and take advantage of those and spend an afternoon and just get some paddocks
00:37:44 --> 00:37:46 set up and built and, and ready to go.
00:37:46 --> 00:37:51 And then all you've got to do is go out there and cut the cut the net wrap off
00:37:51 --> 00:37:55 the bales and you know, roll up one wire or whatever you've got and move them
00:37:55 --> 00:37:59 into the next one and that's 15 minutes of time and they're taken care of.
00:38:00 --> 00:38:01 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Yeah.
00:38:01 --> 00:38:07 So I I went out I a little off topic but or Going down this rabbit
00:38:07 --> 00:38:09 hole just a little bit more But
00:38:09 --> 00:38:12 I cut the twine it's set out and and they're in each pasture two
00:38:12 --> 00:38:16 or three days Depending upon how good I want them to clean that hay
00:38:16 --> 00:38:22 up and then I'll open a gate and I'll send them to the next pasture And now the big
00:38:22 --> 00:38:26 thing is, with weather as cold as it is right now, I am going to have to cut ice.
00:38:26 --> 00:38:26 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Mm hmm.
00:38:27 --> 00:38:27 Yep.
00:38:27 --> 00:38:29 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Outside of that, it's not going to be too bad.
00:38:31 --> 00:38:36 So when, when they're reporting that kind of time commitment, is that
00:38:36 --> 00:38:39 something they've got to keep track of and then go on and enter it?
00:38:40 --> 00:38:42 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Yeah, so you just you put it in through the I mean,
00:38:42 --> 00:38:46 so there's two forms You can do it You can you can go on the platform and type if
00:38:46 --> 00:38:51 you want to and put all your stuff in or like I said earlier I like to just give it
00:38:51 --> 00:38:55 when i'm there So i'll just make a quick little mental note of when I arrived and
00:38:55 --> 00:39:00 then when i'm leaving i'm already in my truck driving home It's not an extra, you
00:39:00 --> 00:39:03 know It's time, but it's time while I'm already in the vehicle going somewhere.
00:39:04 --> 00:39:08 So I'm not adding extra time to what I'm doing per se, but I'm just recording it.
00:39:08 --> 00:39:12 And right now it's, it's, it's free form, so you can just kind of
00:39:12 --> 00:39:14 give whatever data you'd like to.
00:39:14 --> 00:39:19 We're working through to where, The the bot or whatever you want to call
00:39:19 --> 00:39:24 it, the AI, I don't know the technical, technically, software, not my cup of
00:39:24 --> 00:39:28 tea, but it trying to get it to where it'll ask, you know, we're going to try
00:39:28 --> 00:39:32 to work with some consultants on what they think, like, a series of questions
00:39:32 --> 00:39:33 that need to be answered per day,
00:39:34 --> 00:39:34 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh yeah.
00:39:34 --> 00:39:36 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: have those included in there, so,
00:39:36 --> 00:39:38 you know, What are you trying to do?
00:39:38 --> 00:39:39 You know, what, how big was the paddock?
00:39:40 --> 00:39:42 How long are you going to have them there?
00:39:43 --> 00:39:47 How, you know, are you trying to just go the 50 50 grazing route where we're
00:39:47 --> 00:39:49 just taking half and leaving half?
00:39:49 --> 00:39:50 What are we trying to do?
00:39:51 --> 00:39:54 And, you know, time spent and that sort of thing and get that recorded in there.
00:39:55 --> 00:39:57 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: When you're doing that, you're typing
00:39:57 --> 00:40:00 that in, is there plans to have that where you can just talk to it?
00:40:00 --> 00:40:01 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Mm hmm.
00:40:01 --> 00:40:02 That's what yeah.
00:40:02 --> 00:40:02 Yeah.
00:40:02 --> 00:40:06 Yeah, that's that we and we kind of leave it open to whatever you'd prefer.
00:40:06 --> 00:40:09 I I'll be honest when we started out.
00:40:09 --> 00:40:13 I didn't really like the idea of just talking to a to a bot on the on the on
00:40:13 --> 00:40:16 the phone But then I started using it.
00:40:16 --> 00:40:18 I was like man, this is so much easier than typing I'm just
00:40:18 --> 00:40:19 my thoughts are right there.
00:40:19 --> 00:40:21 They're fresh from the day.
00:40:21 --> 00:40:27 I can just take you know A few minutes while I'm driving home get it out and then
00:40:27 --> 00:40:30 it's there and then it's you know It's on the platform in the next day You Mm
00:40:31 --> 00:40:34 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: You know, I think, you know, there's
00:40:34 --> 00:40:40 some concerns about AI, but the potential for AI is amazing.
00:40:40 --> 00:40:42 I use chat, GPT.
00:40:43 --> 00:40:47 And there's a little app on my phone, and I read about people saying this.
00:40:48 --> 00:40:51 Like if I'm driving to town, I can put that on voice mode and
00:40:51 --> 00:40:53 have a conversation with it.
00:40:53 --> 00:40:56 Granted, you put garbage in, you get garbage out.
00:40:57 --> 00:41:00 But you gotta be conscious of, but you can have, it does give you the
00:41:00 --> 00:41:03 ability to talk through an idea.
00:41:03 --> 00:41:06 And a lot of times I talked to my wife about ideas,
00:41:06 --> 00:41:07 and she's like, I don't know what you're talking about.
00:41:08 --> 00:41:10 And I said, it really doesn't matter.
00:41:10 --> 00:41:13 Because it's the act of talking about it
00:41:13 --> 00:41:13 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: right.
00:41:14 --> 00:41:15 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: that helps you.
00:41:15 --> 00:41:20 So, actually I've been using that chat feature, chat GPT,
00:41:20 --> 00:41:21 and enjoying it.
00:41:21 --> 00:41:24 Except, I'm very cautious about it because I'm like, how much?
00:41:24 --> 00:41:26 Because they're taking everything I say.
00:41:26 --> 00:41:29 So I don't want to say anything too particular.
00:41:30 --> 00:41:30 I don't know.
00:41:30 --> 00:41:33 We're going to have to get used to that or figure out a
00:41:33 --> 00:41:34 balancing act with that.
00:41:34 --> 00:41:35 it's
00:41:36 --> 00:41:38 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: it's it's here to stay right?
00:41:38 --> 00:41:38 So
00:41:38 --> 00:41:39 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: it is.
00:41:39 --> 00:41:39 Yeah.
00:41:40 --> 00:41:41 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: it's kind of like social media.
00:41:41 --> 00:41:41 You got it.
00:41:41 --> 00:41:44 I mean whether you like it or not, you gotta embrace it
00:41:44 --> 00:41:44 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh yeah.
00:41:45 --> 00:41:45 Yeah.
00:41:45 --> 00:41:49 Well, for, for the podcast the editing, I use AI to help with editing.
00:41:49 --> 00:41:52 I use AI with helping with content.
00:41:53 --> 00:41:55 It's a, it's amazing what you could do.
00:41:55 --> 00:41:58 So they're giving all that information to you.
00:41:59 --> 00:42:03 The problem I have with that information, I want to track my time.
00:42:04 --> 00:42:07 And let's say today I'm like, I'm going to track my time.
00:42:08 --> 00:42:10 I'll be really good for about a week.
00:42:11 --> 00:42:12 Or at least tomorrow.
00:42:12 --> 00:42:15 And then I get busy and I don't get it done.
00:42:15 --> 00:42:17 I know there's, there's a couple of things in there.
00:42:17 --> 00:42:19 One thing you said, it's easy to do.
00:42:19 --> 00:42:22 You can do it on your phone as you're coming back and get
00:42:22 --> 00:42:23 that information in there.
00:42:23 --> 00:42:29 Do you all provide a little bit of, um, mentor or follow up with
00:42:29 --> 00:42:30 that to help people stay on task?
00:42:30 --> 00:42:34 Because I know if I'm relying upon myself, I'm probably going to
00:42:34 --> 00:42:35 get off task and not get it done.
00:42:36 --> 00:42:37 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Good question.
00:42:37 --> 00:42:40 And that's so we don't have it quite there yet, but we are working on a
00:42:40 --> 00:42:45 feature that after a certain period of time, if we haven't seen data come in
00:42:45 --> 00:42:48 or collected that there will either be a text that goes out or the phone call
00:42:48 --> 00:42:50 will actually come to you that says,
00:42:50 --> 00:42:50 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh yeah,
00:42:51 --> 00:42:53 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: can you, you know, let's get some of this
00:42:53 --> 00:42:55 data recorded that we have missed out on.
00:42:55 --> 00:42:57 So, because and we know that, you know, it might not be an
00:42:57 --> 00:42:59 everyday thing for some people.
00:42:59 --> 00:42:59 Mm hmm.
00:42:59 --> 00:43:02 But keeping track to make sure we're getting it weekly or
00:43:02 --> 00:43:05 however is, is what we're after.
00:43:05 --> 00:43:08 So, yes, so that is something that we are, we are aware of.
00:43:09 --> 00:43:12 And that was one of the big discussion points that we had was
00:43:12 --> 00:43:13 you know, trying to help people.
00:43:14 --> 00:43:16 Because we want to make this as simple as, as easy as possible
00:43:16 --> 00:43:17 for people to collect it.
00:43:17 --> 00:43:20 And so, that was one of the things that we're working on and actively
00:43:20 --> 00:43:22 trying to figure out how to.
00:43:22 --> 00:43:25 And I say we, that's our, Software engineering team that handles it.
00:43:25 --> 00:43:29 I just, I just relay to them what things I think, you know, I'd like to
00:43:29 --> 00:43:33 see just from our operation and from other conversations with farmers and
00:43:33 --> 00:43:35 ranchers what they'd like and then see if that's something that we can
00:43:35 --> 00:43:37 build or incorporate.
00:43:38 --> 00:43:38 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Yep.
00:43:39 --> 00:43:41 And then help them understand the farmer side of it.
00:43:42 --> 00:43:45 Sometimes when you work with software people, their mindset's
00:43:45 --> 00:43:46 a little bit different.
00:43:46 --> 00:43:47 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: it is.
00:43:47 --> 00:43:47 It is.
00:43:47 --> 00:43:47 So
00:43:48 --> 00:43:49 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: But it's good.
00:43:49 --> 00:43:50 We need them to have that mindset so
00:43:50 --> 00:43:53 they can build the software the way we want.
00:43:53 --> 00:43:56 But then when you have that conversation, it's like, I know
00:43:56 --> 00:44:01 that's the preferred way, but we gotta think about real world application.
00:44:02 --> 00:44:05 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: and so and luckily you know We're kind of the
00:44:05 --> 00:44:11 the buffer since we were helping with it, but we're also on the you know,
00:44:11 --> 00:44:15 we're we're producers ourselves so that we can kind of relay those messages
00:44:15 --> 00:44:20 and make it understandable and our our founder Reese one of the founders Reese
00:44:21 --> 00:44:25 Is really really Interested in this stuff and that's kind of why he got
00:44:25 --> 00:44:25 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh yeah.
00:44:25 --> 00:44:28 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: he read Gabe Brown's book randomly I
00:44:28 --> 00:44:31 think he got connected with that book and then it he was like, alright This
00:44:31 --> 00:44:32 is something I want to try to help
00:44:33 --> 00:44:33 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh yeah.
00:44:33 --> 00:44:35 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: space build out.
00:44:35 --> 00:44:38 So Yeah, so they're very involved in here.
00:44:38 --> 00:44:41 I know he does quite a bit of reading of different books and
00:44:41 --> 00:44:42 stuff in the regenerative space.
00:44:43 --> 00:44:46 It's, it's, it's not really that bad when I'm communicating with
00:44:46 --> 00:44:47 him about things we want to do.
00:44:47 --> 00:44:48 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh, well, good, good.
00:44:51 --> 00:44:52 It's a spectrum, so yeah.
00:44:54 --> 00:44:56 Now, farmer starts inputting this.
00:44:56 --> 00:44:58 You mentioned soil test.
00:44:58 --> 00:45:01 You can come out on site and get some information.
00:45:01 --> 00:45:03 What's this process?
00:45:03 --> 00:45:05 We've talked a little bit about what it looks like for the farmer.
00:45:06 --> 00:45:09 But as they continue on it, what does it look like for the
00:45:09 --> 00:45:10 farmer and what are they getting?
00:45:12 --> 00:45:15 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: So one of the things would be, you know, especially
00:45:15 --> 00:45:17 when like it comes to tracking time.
00:45:18 --> 00:45:22 One of the things that we're kind of, you know, looking at is, I think one
00:45:22 --> 00:45:26 of the things that farmers don't always track is what is their time worth
00:45:26 --> 00:45:29 to them, you know, or what are they paying themselves, if that makes sense.
00:45:29 --> 00:45:33 So it's, you know, when we were talking about going out and breaking ice, well,
00:45:33 --> 00:45:37 what's the cost benefit if we put in some sort of frost proof water, you know?
00:45:38 --> 00:45:42 And so, you know, if we track your time for the whole entire winter and
00:45:42 --> 00:45:46 we say, hey, you spent X amount of hours out here breaking ice every day
00:45:46 --> 00:45:50 and you're paying yourself X amount, Well, you know, it's actually going
00:45:50 --> 00:45:55 to be more beneficial to go ahead and pay this cost to put in this automatic
00:45:55 --> 00:45:58 water or this frost proof water system.
00:45:58 --> 00:46:02 Because it's going to give you back, you know, all this time to you and
00:46:02 --> 00:46:04 based on what you're paying yourself.
00:46:05 --> 00:46:07 It actually means, you know, you're going to come out financially
00:46:07 --> 00:46:09 ahead to make these changes.
00:46:10 --> 00:46:11 So that, that's one way.
00:46:11 --> 00:46:14 And then another one that we're kind of working through is helping,
00:46:15 --> 00:46:16 you know, adaptive grazing.
00:46:16 --> 00:46:18 So, you know, you start out with, you know.
00:46:19 --> 00:46:23 You've got your, your paddock size, whatever that is and you're moving them,
00:46:23 --> 00:46:26 you know, if we're doing truly adaptive grazing, you're not, you know, let's just.
00:46:27 --> 00:46:28 Use round numbers here.
00:46:28 --> 00:46:30 You got five acre paddock there, and you're not going to go five acre,
00:46:30 --> 00:46:34 five acre, five acre, five acre, five acre, right, as you're moving them.
00:46:34 --> 00:46:37 But, but that's also, you know, whether we're increasing that or decreasing, that
00:46:37 --> 00:46:42 size is going to be dependent on reporting back of the forage consumption, you know,
00:46:42 --> 00:46:45 what you were trying to take out, and then also with, you know, what time of
00:46:45 --> 00:46:49 year is it, and are we, are we getting, are we getting rain that's beneficial to
00:46:49 --> 00:46:53 help grow this, and so maybe that, you know, we need to reduce paddock sizes,
00:46:53 --> 00:46:58 or, Oh, we've kind of hit a drought, and we haven't had any, Maybe we need
00:46:58 --> 00:47:01 to extend out some of these paddocks and maybe keep them in there longer
00:47:01 --> 00:47:06 to give other parts of the operation more time to recover and to rest.
00:47:08 --> 00:47:10 It's kind of helping them, helping them put that together.
00:47:11 --> 00:47:13 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Yeah, so, so you've got the data entry, so
00:47:13 --> 00:47:16 you're getting that data and then you're able to use some that data
00:47:17 --> 00:47:21 and, and coach or help that farmer
00:47:21 --> 00:47:23 as they're making decisions.
00:47:25 --> 00:47:28 Is this a, a monthly subscription?
00:47:28 --> 00:47:30 Is it a one time fee?
00:47:30 --> 00:47:32 Is it a yearly subscription?
00:47:32 --> 00:47:33 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Great question.
00:47:33 --> 00:47:39 So, because we just recently started we're actually offering it free for a year
00:47:39 --> 00:47:40 for, for anybody that wants to try this
00:47:40 --> 00:47:41 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh, okay.
00:47:41 --> 00:47:42 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: and kind of, you know, what we
00:47:42 --> 00:47:45 ask is use it, provide feedback.
00:47:45 --> 00:47:47 We know it's, you know, there's going to be times where it's a little clunky
00:47:47 --> 00:47:50 and maybe doesn't work exactly as well.
00:47:50 --> 00:47:53 But you know, for, especially with the early adapters that we've gotten, they've
00:47:53 --> 00:47:57 done a pretty good job of giving feedback of, Hey, we really like this part of it.
00:47:57 --> 00:47:58 Can we incorporate this?
00:47:58 --> 00:48:03 You know, we're looking at ways of incorporating, So that you can kind of
00:48:03 --> 00:48:04 get a time lapse of, of what you're doing.
00:48:04 --> 00:48:10 And then also add that the voice or you know, features, because we were
00:48:10 --> 00:48:13 talking to some people and they're like, Oh, I've got pictures of forage
00:48:13 --> 00:48:17 on my phone from six months ago, and I don't know why I took this picture.
00:48:18 --> 00:48:22 And so finding ways of helping them kind of incorporate those, those as well.
00:48:22 --> 00:48:26 Just so that it's, it's there and it's easy to find and
00:48:26 --> 00:48:30 to pull up and then get, you know, Monthly or quarterly summaries of what's going on
00:48:31 --> 00:48:36 too is is pretty important to us because I don't know cal how you are, but I used to
00:48:36 --> 00:48:41 be i'm a pretty big note taker So I would fill up a notebook of you know When i'd
00:48:41 --> 00:48:44 come home of things that were going on the ranch what I wanted to do what I wanted
00:48:44 --> 00:48:48 to accomplish and i'd have that but I never really ever would go back through
00:48:48 --> 00:48:53 and look at it or Re evaluate it or you know, I had I had goals written down
00:48:53 --> 00:48:58 that I had written them down, but I never went back through and looked at again.
00:48:58 --> 00:49:02 So this helps with also keeping those goals front and center on you so that
00:49:02 --> 00:49:06 you're, you're still moving, you know, hopefully towards where you want to go.
00:49:08 --> 00:49:10 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: I, yeah, I want to say there's, I don't want to say
00:49:10 --> 00:49:16 there's no benefit to writing stuff down, because there is, but if you never revisit
00:49:16 --> 00:49:19 it You've limited the benefit for it.
00:49:21 --> 00:49:27 Yeah, and I think those photos you mentioned Nate's a really good aspect And
00:49:27 --> 00:49:29 one thing about photos I I take all kinds.
00:49:29 --> 00:49:31 I don't let me rephrase this.
00:49:31 --> 00:49:32 I don't take enough
00:49:32 --> 00:49:38 photos I need to take more But I try to take some and then a lot of
00:49:38 --> 00:49:42 times I take photos and like you said I'm not really sure what I was
00:49:42 --> 00:49:43 trying to get out of that photo.
00:49:44 --> 00:49:48 But then, then the other aspect of it, I'm out there and I think I need photos
00:49:48 --> 00:49:50 so that I can look back up on this.
00:49:50 --> 00:49:54 But when I do that, I need an established spot.
00:49:54 --> 00:49:57 And I know Dave Pratt and I can't think of his book's name.
00:49:57 --> 00:50:01 He talks about a system for taking photos and making sure you're from the
00:50:01 --> 00:50:04 same spot, but some way to make sure you're in the same spot, looking the
00:50:04 --> 00:50:10 same direction, taking the same photo Year after year, maybe not the exact same
00:50:10 --> 00:50:15 day, but just so you have one spot you can really look at changes over time.
00:50:15 --> 00:50:16 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Yeah.
00:50:16 --> 00:50:18 And I know, I know Dale talks about that too being consistent.
00:50:18 --> 00:50:21 So, and then having, you know, just record your information.
00:50:21 --> 00:50:22 Okay.
00:50:22 --> 00:50:26 I walked, I'm in the Northwest pasture and I walked 30 feet in and a hundred feet.
00:50:27 --> 00:50:30 Down or whatever, you know, and then okay now we know when you got to go back
00:50:30 --> 00:50:35 You're going to the same spot and you did it on this date so, you know depending
00:50:35 --> 00:50:38 on this, you know, you can do it yearly or seasonally monthly whatever you want
00:50:38 --> 00:50:41 to do and Get those uploaded in there.
00:50:42 --> 00:50:45 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: I, I like the idea, that's kind of what the book,
00:50:45 --> 00:50:49 Dave Pratt's book says about measuring, you know, and I've thought even about
00:50:49 --> 00:50:51 putting a T post out there in the
00:50:51 --> 00:50:51 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Mm hmm.
00:50:52 --> 00:50:53 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: right there's where I'm taking the photos.
00:50:54 --> 00:50:57 The problem with that is I don't want that T post out in the middle of the pasture.
00:50:57 --> 00:50:59 When I don't see it and I run over it,
00:51:00 --> 00:51:04 or, or something, something stupid, I, I'm looking the wrong way, and then
00:51:04 --> 00:51:05 I, oh yeah, there's a T post here.
00:51:07 --> 00:51:09 I won't talk about how that, I know that can happen.
00:51:09 --> 00:51:17 Anyway so if your phone's able to, to give you your, to tell you where you are in
00:51:17 --> 00:51:18 some way, that'd be really interesting.
00:51:19 --> 00:51:21 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Yeah, that's a feature that we hope to have
00:51:21 --> 00:51:22 here fairly quickly built into it.
00:51:22 --> 00:51:24 Like I said earlier, we're still pretty new.
00:51:24 --> 00:51:27 So some of this stuff we're still working through and figuring it out.
00:51:27 --> 00:51:28 And I've, I've learned that.
00:51:29 --> 00:51:32 You know, I might think something's really simple and easy to incorporate
00:51:32 --> 00:51:36 and then I talk to our engineering team and they're like, dude, that is
00:51:36 --> 00:51:39 a lot more work than we want to put into this little project right now.
00:51:39 --> 00:51:41 And then there's other stuff where I'm like, Hey guys,
00:51:41 --> 00:51:43 this is a wild, crazy idea.
00:51:43 --> 00:51:45 And they're like, Oh yeah, that's, it's real simple.
00:51:45 --> 00:51:46 We actually will get that done today.
00:51:47 --> 00:51:47 I'm
00:51:47 --> 00:51:47 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Yeah.
00:51:48 --> 00:51:48 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: all right.
00:51:50 --> 00:51:52 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Yeah, yeah, right now in this phase, you're,
00:51:52 --> 00:51:58 you're figuring out what is useful to a farmer and making sure you can
00:51:58 --> 00:52:01 provide that in a, in a value added way.
00:52:02 --> 00:52:05 And then, yeah, there's, there's certain things you come across that
00:52:05 --> 00:52:09 the software is not going to be able to provide you an effective
00:52:09 --> 00:52:10 way to do it at this point in your
00:52:10 --> 00:52:11 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: At this point.
00:52:11 --> 00:52:13 And yes, we just want people to understand that.
00:52:13 --> 00:52:15 But you know, the goal is that we can figure that out.
00:52:16 --> 00:52:20 And the goal is to especially with the AI thing is that more users we have, and
00:52:20 --> 00:52:25 they're, you know, recording their data or their issues is that it should be
00:52:25 --> 00:52:29 able to pick up kind of on some solutions from other producers that have been
00:52:29 --> 00:52:31 in the program, if that makes sense.
00:52:31 --> 00:52:32 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh, yeah.
00:52:32 --> 00:52:34 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: you know, Hey, we're fighting through this issue.
00:52:34 --> 00:52:37 And then our system will kind of be able to pick up keywords and then
00:52:37 --> 00:52:39 come back with some recommendations.
00:52:39 --> 00:52:42 Now that'll be down the road once we get more users onto the platform and using it.
00:52:42 --> 00:52:46 But that's, that's kind of the idea of what they want to build out with this.
00:52:47 --> 00:52:50 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: For, for this program, who's your ideal user?
00:52:52 --> 00:52:55 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: I would say it's anybody that's wanting to do
00:52:55 --> 00:52:59 regenerative, regenerative rotational grazing or anybody that is in that already
00:53:00 --> 00:53:05 in that space and is, is doing rotational cattle moves, that sort of thing.
00:53:06 --> 00:53:08 That's kind of our ideal operation.
00:53:09 --> 00:53:12 We do a fair amount of work now too with, with a lot of row
00:53:12 --> 00:53:15 crop guys that are integrating cover crops and have livestock.
00:53:15 --> 00:53:19 So those are a really good fit too, but yeah, anybody that's, that's, that's
00:53:19 --> 00:53:21 running cattle on their operation and just trying to improve the land
00:53:21 --> 00:53:22 is a, it's a really good option.
00:53:23 --> 00:53:25 And I say cattle, I shouldn't say cattle, I should say livestock,
00:53:25 --> 00:53:26 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh
00:53:26 --> 00:53:27 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: or any type of, type of animal.
00:53:28 --> 00:53:30 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Is there a certain size you feel like the farm
00:53:30 --> 00:53:36 should be for this to be beneficial or you're open to whatever size operation?
00:53:36 --> 00:53:38 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: yeah, I mean, we're open to working with anybody.
00:53:38 --> 00:53:42 I mean, right now, we've got from a hundred acres to a few thousand
00:53:42 --> 00:53:43 acres that we're working with.
00:53:43 --> 00:53:47 So, and we'd like to find some bigger operations to work with as well.
00:53:47 --> 00:53:50 Yeah, anybody that, that's just trying to be more intentional, and
00:53:50 --> 00:53:54 more data driven on their operations is a great, great fit for us.
00:53:55 --> 00:53:57 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: So let's say someone's listening to this
00:53:57 --> 00:54:00 conversation and they're like, hey, I want to find out more information.
00:54:00 --> 00:54:01 I want to get started.
00:54:02 --> 00:54:02 What do they do?
00:54:03 --> 00:54:08 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: You can visit our website, which is rootedag.
00:54:08 --> 00:54:12 com, or you can reach out directly to me.
00:54:12 --> 00:54:13 Email is pretty easy.
00:54:13 --> 00:54:14 It's nate at rootedag.
00:54:14 --> 00:54:22 com, or you can give me a call on my cell phone, 316 772 2475.
00:54:23 --> 00:54:25 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: So they, they reach out to you all.
00:54:25 --> 00:54:27 What's the next step after that?
00:54:28 --> 00:54:31 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: So we'll send out what we call a it kind of depends
00:54:31 --> 00:54:33 on exactly what we're doing with them, but
00:54:33 --> 00:54:38 for the, for the, for the, everybody will get what we call a context report or a
00:54:38 --> 00:54:42 farm's needs analysis and that's kind of an inward thing that we want people
00:54:42 --> 00:54:46 to look through and kind of do some own evaluations on their own farm what are
00:54:46 --> 00:54:49 your short, medium, long term goals, where do you guys see that you guys
00:54:49 --> 00:54:54 have the greatest success, what are your greatest Deficiencies or obstacles or
00:54:54 --> 00:54:57 challenges and there's a bunch of other questions in there too, but just kind
00:54:57 --> 00:55:01 of helps us understand the operation a little better, kind of where you're where
00:55:01 --> 00:55:03 you're at, where you want to get to.
00:55:03 --> 00:55:05 We'll talk through some specialty markets.
00:55:05 --> 00:55:10 Are you, you know, are you, are you, I don't want to say this,
00:55:10 --> 00:55:13 what are you doing to kind of decommoditize yourself, if you will?
00:55:13 --> 00:55:18 You know, and then the, the platform will actually even have some, some
00:55:18 --> 00:55:21 recommendations in there for you, you know, of hey, there's a farmer's market
00:55:21 --> 00:55:26 that's X amount of miles away, or maybe look at these other kind of specialty,
00:55:26 --> 00:55:30 specialty programs to, to sell your crop or your beef or whatever you're doing.
00:55:32 --> 00:55:35 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Is there any aspect of rooted ag that I didn't ask
00:55:35 --> 00:55:36 you about that we should have covered?
00:55:38 --> 00:55:39 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Good question.
00:55:39 --> 00:55:41 I think you pretty much nailed most of it.
00:55:42 --> 00:55:44 Nothing really jumping out at me that we haven't covered.
00:55:45 --> 00:55:50 I would say one of the nice benefits of working with us and being the small
00:55:50 --> 00:55:54 operation that we are is whatever changes or things you want to see that get brought
00:55:54 --> 00:55:59 to us, it's very easy for us to go to our software engineers and say, hey, is
00:55:59 --> 00:56:01 this something we can incorporate or not?
00:56:01 --> 00:56:03 You know, we don't have to jump through a bunch of hoops.
00:56:04 --> 00:56:07 I can just call them directly and speak to them and get you an answer pretty quickly.
00:56:08 --> 00:56:12 So we, we are trying to be very user friendly as, as much as we can and trying
00:56:12 --> 00:56:19 to help put whatever issues or things they wanna see into the, into the program.
00:56:21 --> 00:56:22 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: right, with that, that end goal of
00:56:22 --> 00:56:24 having a useful tool for a
00:56:24 --> 00:56:25 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Exactly.
00:56:25 --> 00:56:25 So
00:56:26 --> 00:56:29 right now it's just, it's just kind of on the platform, on the computer.
00:56:30 --> 00:56:34 We're working on a mobile, mobile piece of it as well, just because.
00:56:35 --> 00:56:38 Your phone's always with you, so we want to try to make that as, make that
00:56:38 --> 00:56:40 as easy as possible for the farmer.
00:56:43 --> 00:56:46 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: now that sounds excellent Nate, and I'm looking forward
00:56:46 --> 00:56:49 to seeing how it goes with you all.
00:56:49 --> 00:56:52 I don't know if I'm, I am interested in it, but I'm not the only
00:56:52 --> 00:56:53 person that makes decisions here.
00:56:53 --> 00:56:54 So,
00:56:54 --> 00:56:59 yeah, Nate, it's time for our famous four.
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00:57:57 --> 00:57:59 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: And I know you answered the famous four
00:57:59 --> 00:58:02 questions just barely over a year ago,
00:58:02 --> 00:58:04 but we're going to make you do it again.
00:58:05 --> 00:58:06 And we're going to see how those
00:58:06 --> 00:58:06 answers are.
00:58:08 --> 00:58:12 Our first question, grazing grass related book or resource?
00:58:12 --> 00:58:15 And Nate, I know right off, you're going to say rooted ag, but beyond
00:58:15 --> 00:58:17 that, what's your favorite resource?
00:58:19 --> 00:58:20 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: probably YouTube.
00:58:20 --> 00:58:23 You can find a lot of really good information out there
00:58:23 --> 00:58:25 very quickly for certain things that you want to look into and
00:58:26 --> 00:58:26 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh yes,
00:58:26 --> 00:58:29 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: You know, a lot of short videos you can
00:58:29 --> 00:58:34 bounce around from, you know, Greg Judy to Gabe Brown to Dale Strickler to whoever
00:58:34 --> 00:58:38 you want to, you know, look up and kind of see different things very quickly.
00:58:39 --> 00:58:43 So I, I like that and then I, if I'm allowed to add more, I would say, you
00:58:43 --> 00:58:46 know, there's a lot of really good, good books that are out there as well.
00:58:47 --> 00:58:48 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: oh yeah.
00:58:49 --> 00:58:52 I love books and YouTube has tons of information out there.
00:58:53 --> 00:58:57 Sometimes weeding through the chaff is kind of difficult but there's
00:58:57 --> 00:58:59 lots of good information out there.
00:59:00 --> 00:59:01 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Absolutely.
00:59:02 --> 00:59:03 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Our second question, what's your
00:59:03 --> 00:59:04 favorite tool for the farm?
00:59:05 --> 00:59:09 And maybe rooted ag fits here, but so look beyond that.
00:59:11 --> 00:59:13 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Well, it depends on the day because I would
00:59:13 --> 00:59:14 normally I would say it's my brain,
00:59:15 --> 00:59:16 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Yeah.
00:59:16 --> 00:59:19 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: that that seems to get shut off or whatever.
00:59:19 --> 00:59:24 So if we're going with an actual tool, it's it's probably the
00:59:24 --> 00:59:26 speedwrite fence remote for me.
00:59:26 --> 00:59:29 That or, you know, Just a good pair of fencing pliers, but
00:59:31 --> 00:59:33 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Man, I love that remote and actually I'm
00:59:33 --> 00:59:35 not using SpeedRite right now.
00:59:35 --> 00:59:36 I'm using
00:59:36 --> 00:59:38 Cyclops and they don't have a remote.
00:59:38 --> 00:59:42 And I have to say the thing I miss is that remote.
00:59:44 --> 00:59:46 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: I mean I can tell when I pull up and I got to
00:59:46 --> 00:59:50 turn it off I can tell instantly by the voltage if there's an issue or something
00:59:50 --> 00:59:55 I need to address and You know, I can also just turn it on or off from anywhere that
00:59:55 --> 00:59:55 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh yeah.
00:59:56 --> 00:59:56 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: So Mm
00:59:57 --> 00:59:59 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Well, I still use my SpeedWrite remote to
00:59:59 --> 01:00:00 check the voltage in my fence.
01:00:00 --> 01:00:02 I just can't turn it on and off.
01:00:04 --> 01:00:05 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: So you just have those buttons
01:00:05 --> 01:00:06 on there for appearance.
01:00:06 --> 01:00:10 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Yes, yes yeah, that's, that's the big negative.
01:00:10 --> 01:00:15 I really like the Cyclops Energizers, but man, I wish they had a remote feature.
01:00:17 --> 01:00:21 And then, our third question, what would you tell someone just getting started?
01:00:22 --> 01:00:24 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Do as much research and knowledge as
01:00:24 --> 01:00:30 you can before getting into it so that you have a good understanding
01:00:30 --> 01:00:37 of kind of where you want to sell or distribute your products and find some
01:00:37 --> 01:00:42 way to Differentiate yourself from what all of your neighbors are doing.
01:00:43 --> 01:00:45 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: I think that's good advice.
01:00:45 --> 01:00:47 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Cause if you're, if you're just trying to
01:00:47 --> 01:00:49 sell calves at the sale barn, you know, and you've only got 15 head and
01:00:49 --> 01:00:53 you're competing with your neighbors who have 100, 120 head You're,
01:00:53 --> 01:00:56 you're going to come out on the short end of that stick, unfortunately,
01:00:58 --> 01:01:00 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Yeah, I, I agree.
01:01:00 --> 01:01:02 Find that, that's unique.
01:01:03 --> 01:01:06 thing about your operation or that niche that you can fill.
01:01:07 --> 01:01:08 Yeah, I think that's great advice.
01:01:08 --> 01:01:09 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: and just kind of go, I'm
01:01:09 --> 01:01:10 just going to jump in here.
01:01:10 --> 01:01:11 Sorry, Cal, but
01:01:11 --> 01:01:12 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: No, You're the star.
01:01:12 --> 01:01:14 I'm just here every week.
01:01:14 --> 01:01:15 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: of, going back to what we talked about
01:01:15 --> 01:01:19 earlier, you know, of like, if you're just starting out Maybe it's finding,
01:01:19 --> 01:01:23 you know, a niche with running sheep, goats, or chickens and being able
01:01:23 --> 01:01:23 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Oh, yeah.
01:01:23 --> 01:01:26 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: incorporate that into a lot of other
01:01:26 --> 01:01:27 operations that are around you.
01:01:27 --> 01:01:30 Because maybe it's hard to find land or, you know, especially
01:01:30 --> 01:01:32 now with how expensive stuff is.
01:01:32 --> 01:01:35 It's, it's hard to go out there and buy land, but if you can find a value
01:01:35 --> 01:01:40 add to help farmers and ranchers in your area through different integration
01:01:40 --> 01:01:43 of, of different species of livestock and animals that they don't have yet.
01:01:44 --> 01:01:48 You can, you can find a way to make a pretty good pretty good business.
01:01:49 --> 01:01:53 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Yes, I, I love that, you know, look outside of the
01:01:53 --> 01:01:55 box, don't get so hung up on the box.
01:01:55 --> 01:01:59 And I know for years, I got hung up on the box that I thought I needed to fit in.
01:01:59 --> 01:02:00 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Mm hmm.
01:02:01 --> 01:02:03 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: And it's important to be able to look outside it.
01:02:03 --> 01:02:07 And that way you can evaluate some potential opportunities
01:02:07 --> 01:02:08 that might not be there.
01:02:09 --> 01:02:10 Otherwise, yeah.
01:02:11 --> 01:02:13 And lastly, Nate, where can others find out more about you?
01:02:14 --> 01:02:16 And we've already talked about how to find out more information about
01:02:16 --> 01:02:20 rooted ag, but let's go ahead and include that information again as well.
01:02:21 --> 01:02:21 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Yeah.
01:02:21 --> 01:02:22 So rootedag.
01:02:22 --> 01:02:24 com is our website.
01:02:24 --> 01:02:26 Nate at rootedag is my work email.
01:02:27 --> 01:02:30 If you want to find more out about the ranch, we have an Instagram account.
01:02:30 --> 01:02:32 It's just Stuckey family ranch.
01:02:32 --> 01:02:34 And I'm also on Facebook.
01:02:34 --> 01:02:35 It's just Nate Stuckey.
01:02:37 --> 01:02:38 cal_1_02-19-2025_101635: Very good, Nate.
01:02:38 --> 01:02:41 Appreciate you coming back on and, and keeping us updated
01:02:41 --> 01:02:44 with what's going on and we're excited to see how rooted ag goes.
01:02:44 --> 01:02:45 nate-stucky_1_02-19-2025_101636: Thanks Cal.
01:02:45 --> 01:02:46 I appreciate you having me on.
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